Matt's examples
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+from Tkinter import *
+
+# This is a program that tests the placer geom manager in conjunction with 
+# the packer. The background (green) is packed, while the widget inside is placed
+
+
+def do_motion(event):
+    app.button.place({'x' : event.x, 
+		      'y' : event.y})
+
+def dothis():
+    print 'calling me!'
+
+def createWidgets(top):
+    # make a frame. Note that the widget is 200 x 200
+    # and the window containing is 400x400. We do this
+    # simply to show that this is possible. The rest of the
+    # area is inaccesssible.
+    f = Frame(top, {'width' : '200', 
+		    'height' : '200',
+		    'bg' : 'green'})
+
+    # note that we use a different manager here. 
+    # This way, the top level frame widget resizes when the 
+    # application window does. 
+    f.pack({'fill' : 'both', 
+	    'expand' : 1})
+
+    # now make a button
+    f.button = Button(f, {'fg' : 'red', 
+			  'text' : 'amazing', 
+			  'command' : dothis})
+    
+    # and place it so that the nw corner is 
+    # 1/2 way along the top X edge of its' parent
+    f.button.place({'relx' : '0.5', 
+		    'rely' : '0.0', 
+		    'anchor' : 'nw'})
+    
+    # allow the user to move the button SUIT-style.
+    f.bind('<Control-Shift-Motion>', do_motion)
+
+    return f
+
+root = Tk()
+app = createWidgets(root)
+root.geometry("400x400")
+root.maxsize(1000, 1000)
+root.mainloop()
+